MIM(Prisons)
interviewed Reel Soldier, who previewed a new film they are working on
at the StopMax conference in Philadelphia in May.
MIM(Prisons): What was the purpose of the conference?
Well, the StopMax campaign mission reads, “Our mission is to promote and
support a national movement to end the use of solitary confinement and
related forms of torture in US prisons.” And i think it did a very good
job of that with the conference. It brought together an impressive group
of organizations and people that have been doing work around the issue
of isolation and prison torture.
MIMP: So your film fit in well with the theme of the
conference. Can you tell us a little about the film?
Yeah, it was really good timing for us. The film is called Unlock
the Box, and it is all about the history of and the struggle
against the use of long-term isolation in u$ prisons. It is very clear
about the emergence of control units (and large-scale incarceration in
general) as a form of political repression. If you look at the history
of penitentiaries and more severe forms of isolation, it was largely
determined to be a failed experiment over a century ago. But with the
effective end of Jim Crow and other overt forms of white power, and the
national liberation struggles that emerged from that struggle, prisons
and isolation become an important tool for controlling the oppressed
populations within u$ borders.
So it gets into some history. We also have some factual information on
what control units are including new research some comrades have put
together on the number and extent of long-term isolation. We think we
have the best numbers out there right now, and they’re a lot higher than
the usual 25,000 that people have been citing for some years. We’re
seeing upwards of 100,000 people in long-term isolation. But this
research is ongoing because it is so hard to get complete statistics,
and a number of groups at the conference are collaborating to share this
information. The plan is to publish the stats on
[url=http://www.abolishcontrolunits.org]www.abolishcontrolunits.org
soon, where you can also get information on the movie and how to order
the DVD.
MIMP: What led you to create this film? What do you
hope to accomplish with it?
The film came out of work that some of us were doing with the United
Front to Abolish the SHU, which was a collection of organizations in
California working together to build the campaign there. After doing a
conference in 2005 by the same name, some of our public work died out
and some of us changed focus for various reasons. But it seemed like a
good time to sum up and document what had been years of work in
California, and we knew of others, including MIM, who were carrying out
similar campaigns across the country. In addition, we had felt we had
put enough energy into petitioning the legislature to shut down the SHU,
and that our window of influence there had closed with little success.
We did have success in reaching the public and bringing light to an
issue that is very hidden from the public eye though. And the movie was
an idea to continue public opinion work in another format.
MIMP: What did people at the conference think of the
film? Did you get any useful feedback to help shape the final version?
The response was great. I have to give props to the American Friends
Service Committee (AFSC) for bringing together so many people who were
so involved in this issue. The audience couldn’t have been more catered
to the movie. Unfortunately, we only had a rough draft done at that
point, but people still felt it was very moving and on point. I was
actually even a little surprised, because the film gives a pretty
radical analysis of the international connections with the war on
terror, the war on gangs, and the role of the amerikan oppressor nation
in supporting this torture. And yet, everyone that responded seemed to
really like the message and the content of the movie.
As far as feedback, the main thing was probably the suggestions of
things that we should add to the film. And with all the great resources
at the conference we were able to gather a lot of material to
incorporate some of those suggestions. We don’t claim to have a
comprehensive coverage of the struggle everywhere, but we’ve got a lot
of good examples, and a lot of information packed in to this movie. We
got one suggestion to add more persynal stories to win people over on
that level, which we have done. Our preview focused on some of the more
theoretical material that we wanted to get across for that forum. And a
couple of us that have been involved in the film production itself used
the opportunity to look at the technical aspects and overall flow in a
little more critical light. Just having an audience in the room with you
allows you to say, “man, this part is too long” or “that visual just
looks cheesy” when just a day ago you’re sitting in front of the
computer and you can’t imagine cutting anything out or changing
something.
MIMP: What were the key accomplishments of the
conference?
Well, for us it was a huge accomplishment to get a preview of our movie
on the screen. If it wasn’t for this conference who knows where this
project would be now. It really pushed us to get something on disc. I
mean i was literally compressing the movie and burning it to disc for
the first time less than 24 hours before our presentation. So we got to
expose people to the film and we got lots of pre-orders for the DVD.
This is important, because at this point we don’t have a distributor so
we’re just going to do one big mass mailing when it comes out in
September. So people need to send in their orders now to get one.
But the conference as a whole really seemed to solidify for the first
time, what many of us have been striving for for years, a national
campaign to oppose control units. The AFSC has stepped up to play the
role of providing infrastructure to promote continued communication and
collaboration between different parties working around this campaign.
So, it seems like the campaign has reached a critical mass of a sort.
And it may be good timing in regards to how many states are
re-evaluating their tough-on-crime laws and prison-building crazes.
MIMP: How will attendees be working to carry the
struggle forward?
That’s a good question. People were really enthusiastic about working
together. But we will see how that plays out. Sharing information is
always good, so that should help all of us if that continues
effectively. But, as we learned with the United Front to Abolish the
SHU, it is sometimes hard to bring a lot organizations together when
politics are very different. We had some experiences where it seemed
that sectarianism seemed to prevent groups who were nominally working on
the same issues from joining the United Front, or causing them to leave.
And it’s clear that some groups have different approaches stemming from
their different politics. Which shouldn’t necessarily be a problem,
since a United Front has room for many different political lines and
strategies.
There is a question of whether some strategies or political interests
within the movement are somewhat antagonistic though. For example, there
is a strong focus on getting the mentally ill out of SHU, which in our
analysis usually plays into the states goal of using the SHU as a tool
of political repression. This has become the standard because it works.
But by works, i mean that they can get the laws passed, but it doesn’t
necessarily translate into less people being in SHU, just different
populations - generally populations that are or potentially would pose
political challenges to the white power structure. So this could be a
net setback.
Some state campaigns have been successful in actually getting the
numbers in SHU decreased legislatively. In contrast, court challenges to
the SHU as a whole have been ineffective, only having limited successes
in regards to specific conditions or to the mentally ill.
New legislative campaigns are well under way in places like Arizona and
Illinois, and likely to spread. Others were more focused on the need to
organizing prisoners, street organizations and the oppressed nations in
general. Hopefully these two major focuses can complement each other as
the campaign advances.
MIMP: How can people who are interested in this
struggle get involved with the film or the United Front?
Well, this movie has been largely inspired by the work MIM and now
MIM(Prisons) has been doing. And our analysis in the film is along those
lines. Which puts us more in the camp of focusing on the organizing of
prisoners and by extension street organizations. In fact, i’ve been
talking to a number of comrades in this process about a second film that
focuses on the lumpen on the street. But i think one of the lessons you
can take from the movie is that control units are a response to a
powerful movement of the oppressed, that included a strong prison
movement. By prison movement, i mean prisoners organizing on the inside.
We don’t really see anything like that today, though the possibility
exists.
So people on the inside need to make that happen. We need strong cadre
organizations with a real analysis and political line to back up these
more reformist oriented campaigns that some of the outside organizations
are focusing on. And since the nature of prisons and control units is to
prevent that from happening, we need people on the outside to provide
the infrastructure to help make that happen. I’d point to MIM(Prisons)
political books to prisoners program and study programs as important to
developing cadre level comrades behind bars. As the movie points out in
the conclusion, this is what we need to put an end to the pointless
violence that is going on in there right now and to create a system that
serves the people. And of course, we’ve got to work to keep people out
of the SHU.
As far as getting involved with the film, we just need to get it out
there at this point. Check out the website to order a DVD. And any indie
distributors or online stores out there should email the contact there
if they are interested in making this thing generally available in the
future. If you’re on the outside and interested in joining this campaign
a good first step would be hosting a showing of this film in your area.
You can usually get a free space at the library or local college or
church. We will probably post some promo materials online at some point
for people to use. And if you are gonna do a showing send them an email
and they will promote it on the website, we’ve actually already had a
few groups host other showings of the preview we put out.
I mean, i assume anyone who’s reading this is gonna be hip to
MIM(Prisons), so that’s where i’d look for specific info on campaigns
that need your support. And there are a lot of other groups out there
working on this issue you might support as well. But i’d encourage
people to think seriously about what the best strategy is to actually
achieve our goals (and before that you might need to define what your
goals are). That is what we are striving for constantly, and i hope this
film helps us all consolidate our thoughts around that question.